{"id":1469,"date":"2024-08-16T12:53:27","date_gmt":"2024-08-16T12:53:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/?p=1469"},"modified":"2024-08-16T13:00:06","modified_gmt":"2024-08-16T13:00:06","slug":"foo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/?p=1469","title":{"rendered":"A Silly Text Conversation"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hans \u00c5kerman:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I might think that Singer has too strong of an identification with the observer. It creates a dichotomy&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AC:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I was thinking something similar. Like there\u2019s a very strong sense of self vs everything else. His message seems to be focused on recognizing that thoughts and feelings are also \u201cnot self\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Or to put it another way, instead of seeing the idea of self as an illusion, he just thinks we\u2019re wrong about what the self is, and if we have the right understanding of self as being the observer, then we\u2019ll have it figured out<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hans \u00c5kerman:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, I agree. One example is being the observer. It is being able to reflect on \u201cstuff,\u201d the world, and yourself. It is being able to distance yourself and see the \u201cshape\u201d of the process instead of being the process.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It is not a hiding place. And I don\u2019t think it is our \u201cseat\u201d. It might be. But it\u2019s concepts and putting labels on things : D We can label \u201cus\u201d.. Hm.. This is a beer topic : D<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AC:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes : D<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hans \u00c5kerman:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Everything we know we have a relationship with, and what relationship we &#8220;own&#8221;. We are creating the thing and the relation with the thing. So that \u201cother\u201d self and others are a part of us. The MAP is a part of us. And we own that map. The map and the thought are not \u201cthe others\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We see a thing. Whether we love it or hate the thing, we still have a relationship with it. It is maybe through knowledge and attitude that we map that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That is why the sages called it gunas. They did not map the universe but our mind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sattva, latency, ownership<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rajas, fire, and creativity<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And sattva that was neutral<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Just riffing : )&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If we create a SELF in ANY form. We have created the others.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Or if we dissolve that self to everything we have created brahman. But how do we even point to ourselves? HHAHA<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THIS GAME OF LANGUAGE<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AC:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Haha, it can\u2019t be said<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hans \u00c5kerman:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">True, because I think it is thing-less : ) &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well well. I need to work. Bah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AC:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, but is it really you who is working, or are you observing a psyche that thinks it is working? ; D<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hans \u00c5kerman:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">: O&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hans \u00c5kerman: I might think that Singer has too strong of an identification with the observer. It creates a dichotomy&nbsp; AC: I was thinking something similar. Like there\u2019s a very strong sense of self vs everything else. His message seems to be focused on recognizing that thoughts and feelings are also \u201cnot self\u201d&nbsp; Or to&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/?p=1469\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">A Silly Text Conversation<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1469","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-noll","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1469","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1469"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1469\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1472,"href":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1469\/revisions\/1472"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1469"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1469"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansakerman.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1469"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}